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deportliberals
Congressman
Joined: 26 Jan 2007
Posts: 704
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 9:28 am
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DavidNYC wrote:
http://www.allaahuakbar.net/us/fake_propaganda_war.htm
http://www.rferl.org/featuresarticle/2006/11/b13b472a-5743-4ea1-97a6-56e1bc1dd34d.html
http://www.iraqslogger.com/index.php/post/1081/IMC_540000_Iraqis_Displaced_in_Past_Year
NOW I'm done with you. Bye bye loser
Ooppss!! Almost missed another chance to point out the absolute idiocy of the lib, DavidNYC.
If you will take a look at his first link you will see that it is an ARAB Web Site hell bent on anti-american propaganda. This is what Mr liberal brings to the table to support his anti-american rant. This is what libs do...promote the propaganda of our enemies...a standard lib practice. Of course, in this lib's mind, such a web site is credible...hence the sickness known as liberalsim!!!
The second link above is a foreign press link. The european press is utterly hostile to this nation whether we are at war or at peace. In this link we see an Int'l Red Cross representative painting a picture of some 500,000 Iraqi's being displaced. Remember, Mr DavidNYC said above that some ONE MILLION iraqis have been displaced...appears the lib David decided to double the official figure...as in lie about the official figure, which is 500,000. What is interesting to note is that the Red Cross representative doesn't blame U.S. troops for the 500,000 displacements. He blames, instead, the INSURGENCY for the displacement of the iraqis, ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha. Christ...even this lib's propaganda link is not on his ideological side, ha,ha,ha,ha.
The third link really hurts this lib's effort to portray his country(America) as the cause for all these displacements. The report in that link clearly says that the iraqs fled the city because of CAR BOMBINGS!!! Last time I checked, only the terrorists and iraqi insurgents do car bombings. So, once again, we see another report blaming the terrorists for displacing iraqs from the cities...not our troops or our operations.
Ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha....DavidNYC...you're the best George Bush supporter I've seen in a long time. Please give us some more links showing that our troops are NOT the cause of iraqi displacements, ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha...
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deportliberals
Congressman
Joined: 26 Jan 2007
Posts: 704
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 10:07 am
Post subject:
[quote="DavidNYC"]
You are so full of Sh*t!!! Hahaha! I am a veteran and hold down two jobs. I am both a patriot and a contributor to the "system".
Well...dumbass...when you insult people by erroneously claiming they sit around on their ass drawinig VA disability benefits, etc., don't expect to get a pass on that kind of insult. In other words, moron, if you decide to dish it out you'd better be prepared to take it otherwise leave this kind of stuff to real men.
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I have seen your other "insightful" posts, where you claim "Abraham Lincoln was the worst president in history", and that "JFK was an SOB that deserved to die." What is f*ucking wrong with you dude?
Punks like you may call me Sir. Keep the dude crap out on the streets or on our punk campus' or wherever the silly and immature gather to exchange mindless thoughts. My views on Lincoln and JFK are not novel or new. I lived the JFK stuff and saw first hand what he did to get himself assinated in my view. Millions of others share my view on this given the facts leading up to his death. People like you who are clueless and grossly uninformed (as in liberal) would find such facts shocking...because you do not live in the world of facts. As for Abe Lincoln, simple research at the high school level would expose Abe's political shananigans that led to a totally unnecessary war that his advisors, his military and his political backers warned him NOT TO START!!! That you are clueless about any of this is not surprising....YOU'RE A LIBERAL...you're expected to be clueless about facts and history. Try reading a history book once in a while...maybe do some research at web sites other than moveon.org or foreign hate-america sites.
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You can have this site. I am done with you. I would be happier if I could get you to leave this country before you poisoned the minds of our fellow citizens.
Spoken like a true loser...and coward. It will be you who will be leaving this country. There are millions upon millions of me across this great nation who share my views and hate liberals with a passion. We are the force that put George Bush in office twice and gave republicans control of congress for almost 13 years and are tearing down the lying liberal media daily. We are the force that made sure the last three out of four presidents were republicans. We are the force that has mostly neutralized the liberal supreme court by placing four hard conservatives on that court.
Don't let the door hit you on the ass on your way out...Cuba, China & Iran would love to have america-haters like you.
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Heres a FACT before I go for good you imperialistic demon swine
TODAY - Tens of thousands of people waving Iraqi flags staged a peaceful rally in the southern city of Najaf on Monday to demand the withdrawal of U.S. forces, four years to the day since Baghdad fell to invading American troops.
You are truly and idiot on display. The article you're linking is an article exposing this so-called peaceful demonstration to be organized by one of the leading Shite Terrorist, Al-Sadr, who is afraid to speak in public because we will kill/capture him. This man has ordered the killing of thousands of iraqis civilians and is wanted by both the iraqi gov't and the U.S. What you're trying to present here as a peaceful demonstration is an organized terrorist demonstration and, as the Associated Press just reported less than an hour ago, Al-Sadr ORDERED THIS DEMONSTRATION AND THREATENED IRAQI POLICE & SOLDIERS IF THEY DID NOT JOIN IN THIS FAKE B.S. DEMONSTRATION!!! Only america-haters or buffons would try to paint this demonstration as the will of the iraqi nation. You should be striped of your citizenship and deported for posting this propaganda.
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I don't waste my time arguing with you about your so-called facts and tunnel vision history lessons.
Translation...DavidNYC is just too uninformed to debate even current events because he is a lib.
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Have a nice life. [b]If you know so much, why don't you call into the lib radio show and let em have it?
Sounds like you're one of the mindless devotees to the so-called "Guy James" so-called radio show. When I debate liberals I want a neutral setting where the liberal can't control content, facts, shout me down or cut me off when I'm kicking his/her ass in public. I'll debate any lib under fair conditions.
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Because you know you are wrong and that the majority of this country doesn't agree with you. Haha! Have a nice life, loser.
Try to get out and see more of the world instead of just living in seclusion and bitching about everyone else.
Good boy...you keep making my case for me...keep showing just how out of touch liberalism is with real america.
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DavidNYC
Congressional Page
Joined: 05 Jan 2007
Posts: 28
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 9:29 am
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Ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha....DavidNYC...you're the best George Bush supporter I've seen in a long time. Please give us some more links showing that our troops are NOT the cause of iraqi displacements, ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha...
I thought I explained this thoroughly before, but allow me to break this down for you more simply. Yes, the reason that so many civilians and troops are being killed is "terrorist extremists". But terrorists never existed
en masse
in Iraq because of two reasons (maybe more)
1. Saddam Hussein believed in a secular country, the freedom of Religion. This infuriated all fundamentalists and they wanted nothing to do with him.
2. Saddam's invasion of Kuwait allowed the "West" to invade the "holy land" and "demean it's soil.
Think about it, why were there no terrorist attacks during the first Gulf War? We were in, we were out. No problem.
NOW we have taken up residence in Iraq. Over 4 years! Why does it take so long for us to leave? This is pissing the rebels off so they start attacking the US Soldiers and anyone that loves their country and is helping them is considered a terrorist. The reason they are attacking is because they are there. But we won't leave because they are attacking.
It is an impossible situation
.
Now, I love my country. I firmly believe that when we are threatened and are balls are on the chopping block, heads have to roll and we need to take action. But this war is just so damn frivilous and I am positive it will have an outcome equal to that of Vietnam. Which is really just nothing. It just seems like everyone has got their d*cks out and are swinging them around trying to see who's is biggest. I am just so damn frustrated.
Now I know you are a very bright fellow. You do your homework and know your history. Some facts are I feel may be perpetuated by conservative brainwashing, but...nevermind. This whole war scenario just strikes a nerve and I take things personally when it shouldn't be personal. But my nerves have calmed and am seeing this more clearly. I do have to ask, don't you think that we
both
have occasionally had the wool pulled over our eyes from time to time? I mean, NO one is infallible. Especially America. We have only been a country for about 230 some odd years and we have screwed up before. Who's to say future generations won't look back and say "Man, we screwed that one up."
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deportliberals
Congressman
Joined: 26 Jan 2007
Posts: 704
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 10:53 am
Post subject:
DavidNYC wrote:
I thought I explained this thoroughly before, but allow me to break this down for you more simply. Yes, the reason that so many civilians and troops are being killed is "terrorist extremists". But terrorists never existed
en masse
in Iraq because of two reasons (maybe more)
First...let me say...that since you've responded in a civil manner and have offered some valid points, I'll also respond in a civil manner.
As to your claim above that you have earlier "blamed the terrorists" for most of the civilian deaths(as opposed to our troops), I can find NO evidence of you ever making such a point. Until this post, all your posts about iraqi civilian deaths have not mentioned one word about the terrorist/insurgents being directly responsible...only my posts have made this point. However, now that you've come around to this truth you have placed yourself on the side of facts...a good thing.
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1. Saddam Hussein believed in a secular country, the freedom of Religion. This infuriated all fundamentalists and they wanted nothing to do with him.
Saddam Hessein crushed all religion during his rein. Neither the Sunnis nor the Sheits could practice their religion openly. There were no religous parades or open-air preachings, etc. Saddam feared islam and killed all islamic clerics who dare defy him in any way. One of the driving forces causing Saddam to start the seven year war with Iran was the fact that Iran was an islamic theocracy!!! Iraq was run as a secular nation only because of Saddam's fear of the political power of islam. To claim that Saddam Hussein believed in freedom of religion is akin to saying that Hitler believed in freedom of religion.
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2. Saddam's invasion of Kuwait allowed the "West" to invade the "holy land" and "demean it's soil.
This is an absurd statement, and I'm being polite. To say that Saddam's invasion of Kuwait was what the West wanted to invade so-called holy land it just bizare. First, Saddam invaded Kuwait for its oil riches. Saddam claimed that Kuwait was really part of Iraq so he took it back. After he occupied Kuwait, he moved divisions of troops & tanks up to the Saudi Arabian border and threatened to invade Saudi Arabia. That was the final straw for the rest of the world so the U.S. led a 100 nation coalition against Saddam Hussein's forces. We went against Saddam's forces with a United Nations mandate to kick Saddam hussein out of Kuwait...we were not allowed to invade Iraq and we did not per the UN mandate.
The Kuwaitees were damned glad to see U.S. troops on their soil...so are the Saudis. I don't know what you're talking about when you say sacred soil? The governments and the people of both these countries begged us to come there.
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Think about it, why were there no terrorist attacks during the first Gulf War? We were in, we were out. No problem.
You answered your own question. We went in and then we left. You're comparing apples to oranges...the 1st war was to kick Saddam out of other countries...the 2nd war was to kick Saddam out of his country...big differene...stop trying to make absurd comparisonS!!
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NOW we have taken up residence in Iraq. Over 4 years! Why does it take so long for us to leave? This is pissing the rebels off so they start attacking the US Soldiers
Fighting insurgencies is always a long hard process. It's not like fighting a standup war where two sides slug it out on the battlefield. Hitler had ten divisions tied up by the French underground...bunch of rag-tag people who were poorly armed and poorly organized. There have always been terrorists in Iraq. Saddam killed many of them himself and made peace with others like al qeada. The terrorists we fight today in Iraq come from two renegade nations...Iran and Syria. Reason why were are still in Iraq is that the Iraqi's can't get their act together to defend against the Iranian and Syrian influences.
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But this war is just so damn frivilous and I am positive it will have an outcome equal to that of Vietnam. I am just so damn frustrated.
You'd better hope that the Iraqi conflict does not have the same outcome as vietnam. You'd better hope that sane leadership and sane americans stop the foolish liberals from applying their vietnam defeat tactics to this war. While insane liberals and their lying cohorts in the media try to convince americans that the iraq war has nothing to do with terrorism, the rest of the world watches on their TVs Osama bin Laden and his top cadre claim that Iraq is the most important war for islamic terrorist revoluntion. Yes, we see media report-after-media-report showing al qeada calling Iraq their war...while stupid american liberals say the iraqi war has nothing to do with terrorism. Frankly I and the troops believe al qeada, not american liberals.
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Now I know you are a very bright fellow. You do your homework and have excellent arguments. I do have to ask, don't you think that we
both
have occasionally had the wool pulled over our eyes from time to time? I mean, NO one is infallible.
You bet! Speaking for myself, when I find that my facts are incorrect, or I have been misinformed or I didn't do my homework, I'll be the first to make a course correction and go with the correct facts. There's nothing really wrong with being uninformed about this or that. What is wrong is when you are given correct information that is supported by facts and sources but still refuse to change your uninformed views...then you become an ideologue and thus a supporter of lies. This is why today's liberal cutlure is so decadent and so screwed up! Liberals absolutely refuse to accept facts and truths that prove them wrong...they have to live the lie...they just walk away from the facts.
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DavidNYC
Congressional Page
Joined: 05 Jan 2007
Posts: 28
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 8:19 am
Post subject: Clarification
Quote:
1. Saddam Hussein believed in a secular country, the freedom of Religion. This infuriated all fundamentalists and they wanted nothing to do with him.
Saddam Hessein crushed all religion during his rein. Neither the Sunnis nor the Sheits could practice their religion openly. There were no religous parades or open-air preachings, etc. Saddam feared islam and killed all islamic clerics who dare defy him in any way. One of the driving forces causing Saddam to start the seven year war with Iran was the fact that Iran was an islamic theocracy!!! Iraq was run as a secular nation only because of Saddam's fear of the political power of islam. To claim that Saddam Hussein believed in freedom of religion is akin to saying that Hitler believed in freedom of religion.
Miscommunication. I meant that Saddam believed in a secular country, that allowed those living in Iraq to pursue a freedom of religion, even though they were heavily persecuted by it (Gassing the kurds, etc.)
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2. Saddam's invasion of Kuwait allowed the "West" to invade the "holy land" and "demean it's soil.
This is an absurd statement, and I'm being polite. To say that Saddam's invasion of Kuwait was what the West wanted to invade so-called holy land it just bizare. First, Saddam invaded Kuwait for its oil riches. Saddam claimed that Kuwait was really part of Iraq so he took it back. After he occupied Kuwait, he moved divisions of troops & tanks up to the Saudi Arabian border and threatened to invade Saudi Arabia. That was the final straw for the rest of the world so the U.S. led a 100 nation coalition against Saddam Hussein's forces. We went against Saddam's forces with a United Nations mandate to kick Saddam hussein out of Kuwait...we were not allowed to invade Iraq and we did not per the UN mandate.
The Kuwaitees were damned glad to see U.S. troops on their soil...so are the Saudis. I don't know what you're talking about when you say sacred soil? The governments and the people of both these countries begged us to come there.
This statement was told as a viewpoint of an extremist. I obviously know that the first Iraq war was necessary and that Saddam was illegaly encroaching in Kuwait with means to take over (Which he did in a relatively short amount of time). What I am saying is that because Saddam invaded Kuwait, which forced us to attack and defend, Al Qaida hated Saddam for taking actions that provoked Americans to come to the Middle East and establish Air Bases there, etc... It all tied in to my point that Saddam had no ties to Al Qaida or Osama. That was one reason why not.
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deportliberals
Congressman
Joined: 26 Jan 2007
Posts: 704
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 12:04 pm
Post subject: Re: Clarification
DavidNYC wrote:
Miscommunication. I meant that Saddam believed in a secular country, that allowed those living in Iraq to pursue a freedom of religion, even though they were heavily persecuted by it (Gassing the kurds, etc.)
Learn english!! You can't have Saddam allowing freedom of religion and then have Saddam persecuting religion in the same sentence. Another example illustrating that you don't know what you're talking about.
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This statement was told as a viewpoint of an extremist.
My statement was provable historical fact...every word. Care to show which part of my statement is not fact???
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Al Qaida hated Saddam for taking actions that provoked Americans to come to the Middle East and establish Air Bases there, etc... It all tied in to my point that Saddam had no ties to Al Qaida or Osama. That was one reason why not.
I've provided for you on two occasions the references that shows al qeada and Saddam's military meeting many times. The first source was Bill Clinton's justice Dept indictment against al qeada where the Clinton administration charged al qeada with entering into an agreement on weapons development WITH IRAQ....how many times do you have to told FACTS??
I also advised you to go read the 9-11 Commission Report which also shows meetings between al qeada and Saddam's military happened!!! So...how can you keep claiming that Saddam had no ties to al qeada when all the official documnetation shows that Saddam did have al qeada ties.
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phatgirl_42_01776
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Joined: 11 May 2007
Posts: 13
Location: Massachusetts
Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 12:24 pm
Post subject: Really??
Seems like all you are doing is posting lies and misinformation yourself. What do you have against America, freedom, and Democracy? It was a bunch of liberals who created this country, wrote the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. Liberals fought and died for this country while the Conservates were happy with the status quo. Other than corruption, immorality, and ethical violations, what have you Conservatives done to this country?
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phil
Mayor
Joined: 09 Nov 2005
Posts: 174
Location: Seattle
Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 12:40 am
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hahaha! dude your funny.
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deportliberals
Congressman
Joined: 26 Jan 2007
Posts: 704
Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 4:08 am
Post subject: Re: Really??
[quote="phatgirl_42_01776"]
Last edited by deportliberals on Mon May 21, 2007 6:55 am; edited 1 time in total
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deportliberals
Congressman
Joined: 26 Jan 2007
Posts: 704
Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 4:09 am
Post subject: Re: Really??
phatgirl_42_01776 wrote:
Seems like all you are doing is posting lies and misinformation yourself. What do you have against America, freedom, and Democracy? It was a bunch of liberals who created this country, wrote the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. Liberals fought and died for this country while the Conservates were happy with the status quo. Other than corruption, immorality, and ethical violations, what have you Conservatives done to this country?
Anytime you want to prove my facts to be a lie bring your data. As it stands,
I gave the source and posted here the direct quotes from the Clinton indictment item#4 that claimed al qeada to had reached an agt with Iraq on weapons development. I also gave a second source "9-11 Commission Report" supporting the same claim. You can find this indictment in the Report...it was made part of the record!!!
Unless you can show some legitimate source(like I did) that disputes my facts, it is YOU(the liberal) who is the liar. Liberals must lie and your posts on this board clearly demonstrate the moral depths you must sink to in order to protect your failed ideology. So...let's see your data...let's see who is the liar?!!
As for your moronic claim that liberals founded this nation, you just proved you know absolutely northing about this nation's history. The big liberal who caused this nation to rebell was your buddy the big-gov't-tax-and-spend King George III. The american sympatheizers who went along with King George III were mostly all liberals...upper class educated snots who could afford his taxes and/or who had political connections to the Crown or were viewed favorably by the Crown.
Conservatives like George Washington and the other founders(who hated big gov't and high taxes like all good conservatives do) killed the liberals off our land. And, it took only three big-lib tax codes to cause all that killing...stamp tax, rum tax and finally the tea tax. You libs and your love of big gov't and high taxes have caused two of the largest, costly wars on this naiton's soil....Revolutionary War and Civil War.
There's another one coming up soon. This time...the freedom fighters will not allow any lib to remain on our soil. You guys can go screwup some other country with your liberal sicknesses.
Save America
Deport Liberals
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DavidNYC
Congressional Page
Joined: 05 Jan 2007
Posts: 28
Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 7:19 am
Post subject: Hmmmmm
Its enigmatic how the current administration has our country at war with Iraq, spending billions of dollars and ending tens of thousands of lives with no solid mission purpose for motivation of the war, poor health care, poor education reform, a "patriot act" that infringes on our amendment rights, with a current national deficit of 8.8 TRILLION DOLLARS.
Yet Clinton recieves a blowjob in the whitehouse and all of the radical extremist conservatives scream "impeach!"
George Bush is not only a man who ruined Iraq, but our own nation as well.
Argue all you want, but the only true judge is history.
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DavidNYC
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Joined: 05 Jan 2007
Posts: 28
Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 7:36 am
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Learn english!! You can't have Saddam allowing freedom of religion and then have Saddam persecuting religion in the same sentence. Another example illustrating that you don't know what you're talking about.
Miscommunication. I did not articulate my point specifically. Saddam's government gave women added freedoms and offered them high-level government and industry jobs. Saddam also created a Western-style legal system, making Iraq the only country in the Persian Gulf region not ruled according to traditional Islamic law. That and Saddam's beliefs in
secular Arab nationalism
is the reason Al-Qaida, Osama Bin Laden and every other terrorist hated Saddam and avoided Iraq. With Saddam now removed, we have provided another country for Islamic Fundamentalists to reside.
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DavidNYC
Congressional Page
Joined: 05 Jan 2007
Posts: 28
Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 7:40 am
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Think about it, why were there no terrorist attacks during the first Gulf War? We were in, we were out. No problem.
You answered your own question. We went in and then we left. You're comparing apples to oranges...the 1st war was to kick Saddam out of other countries...the 2nd war was to kick Saddam out of his country...big differene...stop trying to make absurd comparisonS!!
So why didn't we leave after Saddam was captured and the militant attacks were at the lowest point? How is it that George Bush was standing on an aircraft carrier with a huge banner stating "Mission Accomplished" yet we are still occupying the country?[/quote]
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James Rottnek
Mayor's Aide
Joined: 28 May 2007
Posts: 65
Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 1:38 am
Post subject: To The Republicans
To the Republicans on this forum.
I am here to tell you something today. The Social Democracies (ie:Europe in general) have a far better and faster growing economy then the US. They have education paid for through the university level for most of these nations. They have universal medical care. They have little or no debt and many are giving money to other governemtns in loans and aid. They tend to have vastly superior standards of living. They have better environmental practices. They are more democratic. They have more than jsut two major political parties (You mean there are more than the Godly Republicans and Satan's Spawn the DemocratZ? (Z intentional) Yes, that is what I am telling you.). They have happier people. The people tend to be happier with the governemnt. There (in many rising economies such as Japan, Germany, and otehr European Powers) at least one representatative from a Union in each companies board of directors and the unions have much power in buisness decisions. Now, if you know what the EU is, be saying to yourself "This all jsut happened because of a rise in globalism which will be the tool of the Antichrist." However, this all started far before the EU became powerful. Also, I am an evangelical Christian who beleives in the Rapture and the Antichrist. For my comment on globalisation, have you ever thought that Satan (and therefore the Antichrist) can use good things for evil? This is how come there are different religions claiming to be stemming from the Bible.
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James Rottnek
Mayor's Aide
Joined: 28 May 2007
Posts: 65
Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 1:44 am
Post subject: To Parapharse Ben Franklin
To speak against the Patriot Act I will now paraphrase Ben Frnaklin. Ben Franklin, in other words, once said that "One who sacrifices liberty for security deserves neither."
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